Curse

master skorm · Sep 14, 2005, 02:50 AM // 02:50

well 105 build pwns in grenths footprint

105 health
protec spirit
mending
baltazars spirit
essence bond
bonetis
healing breeze
shield of judgment
baltazars aura

the trick is when u get to a heretic u do in this order
protec sprit
healing breeze
so when he strips ur enchantment u still have protec sprit on
just spam healing breeze and ull be ok

Batou of Nine · Sep 14, 2005, 05:01 AM // 05:01

EDIT

Pfffft.

unienaule · Sep 14, 2005, 05:09 AM // 05:09

this guy rules, he realizes everyones going to know sooner or later, and anyone with half a brain would have already applied this build to Grenths. anyway, who grade competes in college? not us honors kids. lame.

mike9900 · Sep 14, 2005, 03:45 PM // 15:45

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Originally Posted by Batou of Nine

this needs to be deleted.

patch was created to try and stop this kind of thing.
You may have gotten angry at some1 for revealing ur runners build,
but you are now giving everyone else a reason to be angry with you.
your adding fuel to that last fire, and how does this help?

If ppl really wanted to do such a thing they would do it, this is again like giving others the answers to a test at school. But in college grade competition is everything, why would you help someone get a leg-up over yourself? idk...this just annoys me...

ok i know where you are coming from but stop it!

why are you whinning that someone wants to help people out?

maybe if arenanet wasnt messing up the in game economy every month with these patches then i would say sure keep money making methods to yourself but since they do screw with the economy sooooooo often y does it matter if people are sharing their ideas? No one is asking you to release all of your secrets so DON'T go around telling people no to release theirs the whole idea of a forum is to SHARE knowledge not flaunt that you have it and that your not going to share it.

All i am saying is that you should not go around telling people to stop sharing ideas and how dare you post "this needs to be deleted" if you don't like it don't read it and spend your time doing something else!

Yukito Kunisaki · Sep 14, 2005, 03:53 PM // 15:53

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Originally Posted by mike9900

ok i know where you are coming from but stop it!

why are you whinning that someone wants to help people out?

maybe if arenanet wasnt messing up the in game economy every month with these patches then i would say sure keep money making methods to yourself but since they do screw with the economy sooooooo often y does it matter if people are sharing their ideas? No one is asking you to release all of your secrets so DON'T go around telling people no to release theirs the whole idea of a forum is to SHARE knowledge not flaunt that you have it and that your not going to share it.

All i am saying is that you should not go around telling people to stop sharing ideas and how dare you post "this needs to be deleted" if you don't like it don't read it and spend your time doing something else!

Amen. However, ANet will probably just come up with another way to nerf said build by changing monsters in that area. however, the way this game evolves eternally, there will always be a way to solo farm Mo/X...

Mr_Slice · Sep 14, 2005, 04:06 PM // 16:06

The economy is "messed up" because of farming builds and Ebay. That's why A-net has to "fix" it periodically. This is a common problem in MMO games, it's nothing new. And whether it is right or wrong is only a moral issue, not a matter of whether or not someone is cheating. So let the poster post what he wants.

A-net made it a point in an interview to say that they intentionally made Droks runnable for low-level characters, and that they have no problem with ingenuity and people who actually strategize and come up with builds to accomplish certain tasks. What they don't like is when it tips the PvP balance too far.

wsmcasey · Sep 14, 2005, 04:47 PM // 16:47

Good to know, I might have to dust off my mo/w and give it a shot! I understand that changes are made to the game to keep balance and order. However, it sometimes makes me feel like a-net is an indian giver. The game I paid $50 for 3 months ago isn't the same game today. A lot of the changes are good, but my monk has been nerfed to Sh*t, even for healing and protection which I did alot of. Heres an example: You buy a ferrari and take it home, for the next few months you enjoy driving your new car, you like the way it handles and feels. Then the car dealer sends you a letter one day "sorry, there is going to be an update to your new ferrari". You wake up the next morning after the update and realize your ferrari doesn't handle or feel the same. So, you call the dealer and ask them what updates they made. They say "we gave you a really cool green stereo with 10/10 sundering and +30hp!, but we decided your engine was to powerful and had to give you a ford escort engine and suspension, enjoy the new stereo, we are sending you a free music cd and nerf bat for being such a loyal customer!

Okay.............I want a gold refund from the skill trainers for every skill of mine that was nerfed!

A-net keep nerfin and I'll keep surfing for ways to beat you at your own game.

Mr_Slice · Sep 14, 2005, 04:53 PM // 16:53

Again, you're playing an MMO-style game. This type of game is constantly updated. If you didn't know that when you started playing then you can blame yourself for not doing any research. A-net hasn't done anything wrong. They've done precisely what they are supposed to do, and done it very well at that.

wsmcasey · Sep 14, 2005, 04:59 PM // 16:59

I would like for you to show me where on the Guild Wars box that it say's "we will whip out the nerf bat and ruin your fun at will". Maybe it only says that on the special collectors edition?!?!?!?!?

Witchblade · Sep 14, 2005, 05:06 PM // 17:06

pls .. not another "farming/no farming" thread

Ayashi · Sep 14, 2005, 05:47 PM // 17:47

WOOT! Thanks a ton, just got my mo/w rushed there.

Time to get some pwnage stuff! <3

master skorm · Sep 14, 2005, 05:54 PM // 17:54

yea the fun thing is killing the bosses for green items then selling the items to noobs with lots of money for like 65k

Witchblade · Sep 14, 2005, 05:55 PM // 17:55

btw.. i already tried...

U cant go very far... heretic own u too fast with degen and, dunno from which mob, something makes u bleed and seems to go thru the prot spirit

edit: gave another try.. got bleeding hard to balance with breeze THEN shattered w/o any Heretic around ...

If u gotta be lucky and w8 that there s no Heretic etc around..this is a no go

(Pwning 3 dwarfs in a row down the slope outside the outpost in 4 hours is NOT soloing the place

)

Frank The Tank · Sep 14, 2005, 06:19 PM // 18:19

You really can't do enough damage to kill the bosses, though. All of the other minions are usually dead quickly and then you can't generate enough energy to keep up the damage or prot spirit.

I'll still stick with the 2-man runs, a lot more full proof.

Quote:

WOOT! Thanks a ton, just got my mo/w rushed there. Time to get some pwnage stuff! <3

105 build is a Mo/W build, not for the W/Mo tank.

Blkout · Sep 14, 2005, 06:32 PM // 18:32

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Originally Posted by Mr_Slice

Again, you're playing an MMO-style game. This type of game is constantly updated. If you didn't know that when you started playing then you can blame yourself for not doing any research. A-net hasn't done anything wrong. They've done precisely what they are supposed to do, and done it very well at that.

I concur.

Eet GnomeSmasher · Sep 14, 2005, 06:40 PM // 18:40

I havent tried to solo with a Mo/W myself but judging from other people's failures to do so with Mo/W and my own experience with attempts with other classes... I don't think it's possible to make a solo build that's worth the time needed to solo the area.

Did the OP even use the build or is it theory? Anyone can solo the area with any class but it takes a long long long time and you'd die a lot. I'd like to see screenshots of anyone soloing the area with any kind of efficiency.

master skorm · Sep 14, 2005, 08:27 PM // 20:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witchblade

btw.. i already tried...

U cant go very far... heretic own u too fast with degen and, dunno from which mob, something makes u bleed and seems to go thru the prot spirit

edit: gave another try.. got bleeding hard to balance with breeze THEN shattered w/o any Heretic around ...

If u gotta be lucky and w8 that there s no Heretic etc around..this is a no go

(Pwning 3 dwarfs in a row down the slope outside the outpost in 4 hours is NOT soloing the place

)

you didnt read what i said the heretics are easy do this in this order
protec spirit
healing breeze
spam healing breeze like crazy heretics will go down fast the healing from divine favor will keep you alive and the bosses are extremly easy u just need to practice and learn it if someone gives me a website were i can post a movie i would be glad to

Witchblade · Sep 14, 2005, 08:50 PM // 20:50

i read and i think u got quite lucky

u cant stand the degen + some dwarves shooting at u + bleeding

I dunno which ones of those damn things got Ench remove spell too

twicky_kid · Sep 14, 2005, 10:48 PM // 22:48

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Originally Posted by Yukito Kunisaki

Amen. However, ANet will probably just come up with another way to nerf said build by changing monsters in that area. however, the way this game evolves eternally, there will always be a way to solo farm Mo/X...

only one way to stop the 105 or 55 or the elusive 35 monk (yes, it does exist) is to change the runes to not stack life. until that change is made there will be soloers. anet is not dumb they leave it open to solo they just make it harder. they know people like the build and don't want to see it removed completely.

if you have a brain you would have figured this out by now seeing as i was using almost the same set up the first night of update with my monk. you my be able to solo but its still not 100% and most bosses you can't kill alone seeing as they have a constant hp regen. don't flame or troll on that last comment and say you can b/c i've been doing this for weeks and some of them is impossible alone (aka healing sig and mark of protection).

ele/mo have more of a better chance in grenths then the mo/w does seeing as you kill faster reducing the chance for bleeding and dmg delt to you but it still has the same problems.

Riceboi · Sep 14, 2005, 11:49 PM // 23:49

master skorm I would like to see a video of you soloing this area. You can use filefront to upload a video, and it's free.

http://freespace.filefront.com/1

If you don't want to create a login (which doesn't take very long), I can host it, not sure how we can exchange it though. I am really interested in this video though.

I have tried this and I think it might be possible , but it's extremely hard. I can't get past heretics, conjure phan. is just too much degen stacked with other things.

Here are some problems:
Gnashers-life siphon -3
Rangers-bleeding -3
Carvers-disrupting chop(minor problem but can be fatal)
Heretics-strip enchantment and conjure phan. -5 (major problem)
Ice golems-not really a problem but knockdown with water trident if you are moving